Episode 3
Uncovering DOT Officer Corruption, Self Driving Truck Slowdown and Biden's Decarbonization Plan: Will it Save America...and the world???
Welcome to Shut the Truck Up, your source for all things trucking. On this episode we’re uncovering DOT officer corruption, self-driving truck slowdown and President Biden's decarbonization plan. Will it save America...and the world???
We'll start with a dive into the recent scandal of extortion involving DOT officers in Texas pleading guilty to bribery from truckers. We'll discuss how this kind of corrupt practices affects safety on our roads and what needs to be done to safeguard against future acts.
Next, we'll cover the Waymo's development of self-driving trucks and why progress has slowed down recently and massive layoffs announced. We'll look at possible solutions that can help move us forward faster and get these vehicles on the road sooner.
Lastly, we'll explore the Biden-Harris administrations proposed decarbonization plan for America and its overall impact on trucking.
So join us as we dive into all of these topics and more on Shut The Truck Up Episode 3: Uncovering DOT Officer Corruption, Self Driving Truck Slowdown and Biden's Decarbonization Plan: Will it Save America...and the world???
Transcript
[00:00:30] Bryan: do I sense a little bit of jealousy in that voice? Maybe
[:[00:00:49] CJ: And a diesel and driver shortage. So buckle up and start banging gears. We've got a good show today. This is, shut the truck up. Let's get it.
[:[00:01:05] CJ: You know, I, I think we should start with the question on a scale of one to 10. Okay. Ten one. Nope. . Okay. So you, you said 10, right? Hold on. Yes. You said 10. On a scale of one to 10, how much do you trust our government?
[:[00:01:22] Bryan: Well, my 10 had the zero missing, so it's gonna be down at a one . Okay. Oh, yeah. I like how you change that so quick. . Yeah. Anyway,
[:[00:01:30] Bryan: you at in all seriousness? Yeah, in all seriousness of one. I don't trust 'em at all.
[:[00:01:38] CJ: Yeah. Which isn't much better than a one. No, it's really not. Yeah. Yeah. The whole point is there's some people that go out there and like the government comes out and they tell you some stuff. Like one of the big things out there right now is the fact that they're saying, we got 10 years to live before the world dies.
[:[00:01:59] Bryan: Uh, was it Al Gore? I, Al Gore was a big one that started all that. But you know, all the, the polar caps were
[:[00:02:08] CJ: So I think that's where we should start, is the fact that the government's gonna tell us what we can and can't do again, like normal. So let's go ahead and start with the, the fact that the Biden demonstration has a blueprint to decarbonize America. Okay. And I think what this is saying is that by 2035, if I remember correctly, um, they will want all clean energy.
[:[00:02:57] Bryan: no. You know, they, they got that 2035 and they have a complete net zero emissions by 2050, and I absolutely do not believe that we can power half our grid really by 2035 with those right there.
[:[00:03:42] Bryan: Well,
[:[00:03:57] CJ: They want to get rid of nuclear, which is crazy because a, as far as net benefit, uh, nuclear is by far the best. Energy around it is the cleanest. The cleanest. But everybody, you know, they think of Fukushima, you know? Yep. They, they think of these really bad incidents, which these things cherno were Yeah.
[:[00:04:18] Bryan: and they were still running pretty well. They just weren't maintenance properly. If they had been upkept the proper way, they probably would still be running today, if you
[:[00:04:32] CJ: Cher Noble was different than Thatcher. Novo is what I was thinking of. Absolutely. Yeah. So it does depend on the situation, and I do think they need to make sure it's safe. But with our technology now, I think that's more than feasible. But, you know, their whole thing is they're just antiga or anti fossil fuel.
[:[00:04:54] Bryan: tu U is? What's the acronym? Stand for British Thermal
[:[00:05:10] CJ: Because like it's, it's burned. It has a low ignition
[:[00:05:29] CJ: And that's why cars run off. Spark plugs and diesels run off Compression. Compression. They generate the heat because it, it's so much higher. And that's kind of the whole point about it, is like the diesels are more effective, they got more torque, they create more energy, and that's a big deal, you know, um, when they talk about electrical and everything else like that is affected by everything.
[:[00:05:55] Bryan: That's right. And and also below a certain degrees as well, they become nudge where they don't operate the same. Correct.
[:[00:06:05] CJ: Exactly. Exactly. You, you're not gonna put solar panels in Washington and be as effective as you are if you have 'em like here in Colorado. That's right. We have what, 265 sunny days. Yeah. But you
[:[00:06:22] Bryan: I think 300 out of 365 days that are sunny here. Um, well, today, today was beautiful and sunny, but I think we were at uh, 23 degrees. 26 degrees.
[:[00:06:39] Bryan: solar panels. That's exactly what I was getting at and that was my point.
[:[00:06:58] CJ: effective.
[:[00:07:17] CJ: They do not. Okay. So then you're gonna have to be able to store energy. That's right. And you're able to store energy. What do you have to have?
[:[00:07:25] CJ: Exactly. Now, batteries, they use a lot of different elements. Chemicals and elements. Chemicals, yes. And other things. Right. To, to make them productive.
[:[00:07:38] Bryan: batteries? Well, first off, we dig 'em out of the ground, just like we do fossil fuels. They come from the same place, not, not the ground.
[:[00:07:57] Bryan: there.
[:[00:07:59] CJ: whole nother topic. Right. And that's 70% of all cobalt. Yes. Which is a, a key component. Now when we're talking about batteries, the reason why I said, what else did they end? Like of course, besides battery storage for like, let's say a house or for a grid. Right. Which they will need massive batteries.
[:[00:08:27] Bryan: we're quite a few, quite, quite a few million and, and
[:[00:08:34] Bryan: That's right. They want us to walk because then we are not needing as much cobalt and, you know, as much stuff mined out of the ground. Lithium nickel. Lithium nickel. Absolutely. And, um, you know, it's just, it's just not feasible. I mean, is is it, is it a great supplement to help out? Yes. But to go net zero is just, I'm gonna say it unrealistic.
[:[00:08:59] CJ: I'm, I'm gonna tell you now, I am a big believer in solar energy. I'm a big believer in wind energy. Yes. I think we need all technology to make all kinds of energy hydroelectric, all of it. Right. But like, they're Right. What they're saying is, we're gonna get rid of all fossil fuels and we're gonna go to this stuff.
[:[00:09:34] CJ: And like, I've looked in the windmills. I can get a little windmill from my house. I will do that. We got a lot of wind out here. Yeah. But that, that's. Just because it'll work for me doesn't mean it's gonna work for the whole country. Not everybody
[:[00:09:48] Bryan: So your solar is hitting at peak power. We don't, they don't get the wind that we do out here. Mm-hmm. so that windmills not generating peak power. You know, they may be down south where the temperatures are higher and that, uh, solar grid is just not hitting the same. They may be somewhere where it's not as windy.
[:[00:10:07] CJ: windmills are only good in like two parts of the country. Right. We got central us. Right. And, and that's a great place for windmills. We have higher wind, wind speeds on average. They, they can do really good there, but we don't have an infrastructure.
[:[00:10:38] Bryan: That's exactly where my brain was going, man, I thought about this earlier. Didn't want to jump into it yet, but that's absolutely it. So, to, to go green like this, how do you build the infrastructure to be able to go green? You know, when you truly think about it, when you look at what goes underground, you put all these cables underneath, you know, underneath the earth, then you bury 'em back up.
[:[00:11:05] CJ: do have electric like equipment. Um, I just, I read a thing a couple months ago actually. Um, in the uk they implemented one. Right? It was a mini excavator. . And because they're trying to do the green thing out there too, right? I already know this is
[:[00:11:21] Bryan: Oh dude, it's, it's so
[:[00:11:30] Bryan: I didn't read this, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and I'm gonna say they
[:[00:11:37] CJ: They got like two and a half ha of
[:[00:11:40] CJ: it, it lasted four to six hours with light use. And then when they were actually doing work with it, right? Yeah. And we get equipment for a reason. Moving rocks, digging big, digging for mini, the mini excavators. So they, they were. They were digging like a one foot wide, uh, three foot deep
[:[00:11:57] Bryan: That's like something you do in my backyard when you wanna lay a cable, you know, up to my house. Correct. That's not something that you would, that's not infrastructure digging.
[:[00:12:10] Bryan: Um, I'm gonna go out on a very long limb here and say a diesel powered generator to recharge that huge battery bank in that mini excavator that used all that cobalt, all that nickel, all those other things mined outta the ground. You're, you're, I know
[:[00:12:27] CJ: And someone went and took a picture and it was like, I think it was like nine o'clock in the morning, so they had sort of like seven or whatever do their Yeah. And by nine o'clock in the morning it was already parked and charging on a diesel generator. So the, and this is a problem that I have with the government, and the reason why I give 'em a two is very simple.
[:[00:13:05] Bryan: They write this pandering to the people who don't do the
[:[00:13:12] Bryan: something for
[:[00:13:21] CJ: Yep. And they're gonna keep moving the goalposts cuz that's what they normally do. That's right. But they're doing this so that people feel good about it, but people don't actually understand how much their life will change. And, and this kind of brings up the point, like when we talk about electrical grid, what we haven't even discussed is that they want to do net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
[:[00:13:45] Bryan: Transportation in general. You know what? And, and, and I brought that up. Net carbon a zero by 2050. But when, and I know I said semi-truck, but when you actually think of transportation in, in whole, it's so much bigger.
[:[00:14:05] CJ: an electric train? What, what do trains run off of?
[:[00:14:15] CJ: They're gonna make it from, uh, Denver, Colorado
[:[00:14:18] Bryan: Colorado. Colorado, yeah. . So, yeah, no, they, they absolutely run off of de or coal. They run off of
[:[00:14:34] Bryan: it was, you know what I was thinking? We live in a town right here where coal trains go by all the time.
[:[00:14:41] CJ: their horn
[:[00:14:43] CJ: beautiful. Yeah. Two longs, a short
[:[00:14:49] CJ: No, no, that, that is their standard. Too. Longs short and a long. Don't be calling no one out. Yeah. Some engineers are cool because we're in town and they don't wanna wake everybody up.
[:[00:14:59] Bryan: little less , some of them. Some of 'em, I think they get a little enjoyment out of it. .
[:[00:15:10] Bryan: Transport or transportation? What do you
[:[00:15:14] Bryan: Transport, okay. We have big steel, floaty things.
[:[00:15:32] CJ: Exactly. And there's one other form of, uh, transport that doesn't run off diesel. They use
[:[00:15:44] Bryan: The FedEx is u p s as they're moving stuff all the time. Correct. Through
[:[00:15:55] Bryan: Oh, they, they say they're gonna do it by 2035.
[:[00:16:01] Bryan: to 2050. Okay.
[:[00:16:08] CJ: Um, I wouldn't fly on one, but the, they're already tested in technology. And look, like I said, I agree with any other kind of power out there that we can come up with. Yes. But the, them putting these restrictions on it, what they're saying is that we don't care about technology. We, what we care about is we're gonna put these.
[:[00:16:29] Bryan: It has gone up exponentially. Um, double. Yes. And you know, I mean, it, it's all the way across the board, even outside of natural gas. I went to the gas station the other day again, and I was like, whoa.
[:[00:16:53] CJ: powered. Yeah, okay. Solar to Cabo,
[:[00:17:04] CJ: Well, look, they got big batteries. All right. They got power in reserve. Um, just don't take the midnight flight . Well,
[:[00:17:18] CJ: But you know what, we're green. So we're green. Hey, we're doing it green.
[:[00:17:35] Bryan: Pete
[:[00:17:38] CJ: Whatever. Yeah. The, the guy that took, uh, three months off of fraternity leave while we had, uh, a ton of ships in the. Sitting out in sea waiting to come in circles. Yeah. Waiting. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Because priorities, right. Him and his husband needed three months off each to spend time with the kid they adopted.
[:[00:17:55] Bryan: Didn't get birth to. Yeah. Yeah. Will ,
[:[00:17:59] Bryan: we're the day and
[:[00:18:16] CJ: N Norcom, nar uh, whatever the, the f a like flight catalog Yes. Went down.
[:[00:18:29] CJ: But the people were warned him this was gonna happen. And this goes into my, like, what I'm saying is like we, we got these people in government that have no experience.
[:[00:18:54] CJ: Let's say they started producing electric trucks today. Yeah. And we're gonna talk about that in a second. Cause I already Something else. Yeah. There they are. Like they start producing 'em and they start making 'em. How do you think that's gonna affect us in all these situations if we can't power our grid?
[:[00:19:15] Bryan: trucks on it, don't you worry. We're gonna have it all figured out for you as soon as all the regular people start walking instead of driving their cars. , there's gonna be enough power for you to run your semi-truck to where you need it.
[:[00:19:41] Bryan: We were shut down. Pete Buttigieg came back in, you know, and then he tells us after it first he said he didn't know what was going on. He comes back in afterwards. No surprise. Yeah, absolutely. And then, and says, oh yeah, it was this. But he knew ahead of time. My whole point with this is right back to what I said.
[:[00:20:03] CJ: I'm surprised you only gave 'em a one and I gave 'em a two because I think it's beyond pandering. And I agree. They, they tell people what they want to hear, but they tell 'em that for a reason.
[:[00:20:26] CJ: They don't want people to have the freedom. Like, like when I say I'm gonna have solar panels and I'm gonna have windmill at my house, that's why I, they want to control that. Yeah. Yeah. That's so they can't control it. Yeah. I won't have an electric vehicle. Like, uh, you know, I, I read another article and I think it was Rick Ross.
[:[00:20:58] CJ: Precinct 92 has a detainment order for you. I am going to drive to precinct 92. That's right. And just take you to the cops. That's right. Like, you're gonna lose control because all these smart cars, all these electrical systems are gonna be controlled by whoever controls the, the electrical grid. And who controls the electrical grid.
[:[00:21:17] Bryan: It's definitely not us. I, I was actually, uh, j just watching, um, a little Joe Rogan clip the other day with, uh, the founder of Tesla. Okay. And he said on one of their Tesla models, nobody really knew this, but you could actually have the car drive to classical music. You could hit a button and do it correctly and program it, and it would actually run to the classical.
[:[00:21:45] CJ: See, and, and that's my whole point, like that, that stuff kind of freaks me out. I don't like the government being that involved with everything we do and telling us what we can and can't do. You know? And, and like the cost of all this stuff is gonna be astronomical. Um, I'm real big in the economy.
[:[00:22:24] CJ: And Trump approved of it. Now, right now we're dealing with an inflation crisis, and this is what they consider artificial inflation. You know what artificial inflation is?
[:[00:22:38] CJ: Well, no, like artificial means that it's a money issue. So when they printed a bunch of money Right.
[:[00:23:00] make
[:[00:23:10] Bryan: That is purposely created inflation. Right. But
[:[00:23:28] CJ: Like, so how much money is out there? There's now more of it. So that means each one is worth less. And, and the best way to think about it is to think about it like if you're in South Africa, right? And you're in this little tiny village and there's only 10 water bottles in the whole village, right? And you're like, I want one of those 10 water bottles.
[:[00:23:56] Bryan: right? Like yeah. They get thrown to the side. Well, cheap. Yeah, exactly. And I was, I was gonna say the same thing I said, if there, you know, I was gonna say, if there's only $101 bills out there and everything costs $1, well as soon as they make another $101 bills, things now cost $2.
[:[00:24:19] Bryan: inflation is? True inflation is when the cost of things changes for outside reasons other than them just creating more dollar bills. What
[:[00:24:35] CJ: Yes. Right? Supply and demand. Yep. So when the demand is greater than the supply, we have inflation. Yes. Right. So let's say we have a static number like le like. Okay. And just the reason why fuel prices shot up before, you know, right after we came off the lockdowns and the reason why the fuel prices were so cheap then is because nobody was driving.
[:[00:25:03] Bryan: to meet it, pe people were going stir crazy at home, all of a sudden I saw it. Well, we're outdoorsmen and we saw a, a rush of people going outdoors and doing more things cause they had been locked inside so much.
[:[00:25:22] CJ: things. And they didn't have the supply to meet it. That's, that's why the price went, that that's natural. . Inflation. Inflation. Right. Versus artificial inflation.
[:[00:25:39] Bryan: inflation. Inflation, and they're
[:[00:25:45] CJ: Like that's why the, the gas price and natural gas prices have doubled from a year ago. Yes. Because they're trying to restrict gases. And what that means is they're restricting the supply of natural gas. The demand, you look, you look at California, right. And, and their, their prices have almost tripled here in Colorado.
[:[00:26:17] CJ: You feel grateful? I'm on propane and I filled my tank. I saw this coming. I filled my thousand gallon tank.
[:[00:26:38] CJ: You have have to have this big a buffer. And I'm like, cool. Yeah. I don't care. I had five feet. I don't care. Yeah. Give a thousand gallon tank that way you can buy low. Yeah. Well, that's what I do. I, I wait until the prices, which typically for propane and natural gas, the prices is, are lowest in mid-summer because that's when the lowest amount of usage, the demand is lowest, the demand is low.
[:[00:27:14] CJ: And for everybody that's out there now, like this kind of brings us into, one of the other things we were talking about is electric trucks and everything else. There's another article that we kind of wanna bring up, and this has to do again with the economy. I, I talk a lot about it, but one of the things that happened last year is we were in a recession, but if you ask anybody in the industry, or you ask anybody in the news industry, they tell you we weren't in a recession.
[:[00:28:08] CJ: So that means that you see the unemployment after, after
[:[00:28:31] Bryan: They're not making as much money. They're not making as much money. And, um, well if you know anything about business, they have to make cuts.
[:[00:28:54] CJ: And one of the big things is Google and Alphabet, right? That's right. Uh, we all know who Google is. Alphabet is the parent company. Yeah. A lot of people don't know that, but Yeah. Yeah. Another subsidiary of theirs is called Waymo.
[:[00:29:13] CJ: Well, fully autonomous trucks. Yes.
[:[00:29:38] CJ: Waymo has about 2,500 employees, right? They are the largest headcount of Alphabet's side projects,
[:[00:29:54] CJ: Well, side project, you gotta think like, I think they have another one that's like the wing division or well, whatever they call it.
[:[00:30:16] Bryan: Yeah, no. A a absolutely. You know, and um, and with that 27% drop in profits, I mean, it was even a little bit worse. Let me see here. Cuz we are looking at an article wing drone, 1.6 billion from 1.9 billion. That's on the Wing project. But yes, that is a huge drop. It absolutely is a right and
[:[00:30:40] CJ: Yes. And if, if, think about it, if they can get to where they have electric trucks, right, that are autonomous. We don't need drivers. We, we don't need fuel, we don't need all this stuff. Um, that, that's gonna be bad. Like, as far as I'm concerned in the future, that that means anything you do, you're just gonna have like a drone show up or whatever.
[:[00:31:03] Bryan: It really does. How many of you out there would be comfortable walking up to a minivan, getting in the back of it? It has got a glass shield, kind of like, you know, the taxes we have now, but there ain't nobody up front man.
[:[00:31:20] CJ: Robo taxis. Absolutely. Robax rob taxis. Right. That, that's already in play. I mean, they're using them what? San Francisco? Phoenix. Phoenix. A couple places. Yeah. Yeah. Like they're already trying that out. And you know what, on, on the, on the car delivery side? I, I guess I don't have too much of a problem with it.
[:[00:31:35] Bryan: is different though. Semi-truck are a whole different ballgame. You know, they, they're 80,000 pounds and you know, truth. Who knows if they will change the weight ratings once it is fully autonomous. You know, they may go higher on weight ratings. It does go into damaging roads and all that stuff.
[:[00:32:01] CJ: there? I'm not, I'm not too worried about all that. But I mean you, you gotta think like when we have delivery times and everything else, we have road conditions and other things.
[:[00:32:24] CJ: And I know a lot of people say the human element. Well yeah. And I know a lot of people say that computers are better at most things and that that's true. But not all. Exactly. And not all. Here's one of the big things I have about it. Like if you have a truck driver that's out there, he's on the road, right?
[:[00:32:54] CJ: Now do you think that autonomous trucks will, you know, will they just try to stop because they'll see hazard applied brakes?
[:[00:33:11] CJ: but I don't think it's gonna be program. Who's programming it? That's exactly what the guy that went
[:[00:33:28] Bryan: And we've got plenty of examples out there where human element actually did, um, not do what it should have. And I think the autonomous trucks would've been right there in it up here on, uh, I 80 when they had that big ice storm. And that was that huge pile up down in, uh, Dallas a couple years ago. Was that two years ago?
[:[00:33:55] CJ: very big question? No, it's not a big question. It's very simple. , they would apply brakes. Like the, you cannot teach a computer to leave the road. They are literally trained to stay on the road, stay in between lines, like look for cars around you, car in front of you, apply brakes.
[:[00:34:27] CJ: Cause we had the guy that was out doubt here on I 76
[:[00:34:32] CJ: you have those people that would rather affect others than themselves, but I, I think it's a smaller percentage than the people that would sacrifice like their own safety to save other people. Now, like with all this is, my whole problem with it is you're, you're taking a computer and you're gonna ask it to do human things.
[:[00:34:53] Bryan: know what? When you look at statistically, 85, 90% of the things that you ask that computer, that AI to do, it's gonna do extremely well and a lot of times better than a human could, but that 10 to 15%. Is human life and all of us people value human life. And, and when you are looking at it statistically, it's not okay to have that 10, 15% human life out there.
[:[00:35:41] Bryan: You know, instead of trying to just stop the truck. Well, they
[:[00:35:57] CJ: Like we have fuel lines. Yeah. Imagine what that's gonna be like for a battery charger. Charger. Yeah. The, it's gonna take you 10 or 12 hours to charge up. And that's in good conditions. When, when you look at these electric cars and everything else and you look up north when it's really cold. And especially this winter.
[:[00:36:26] Bryan: usually melt. It melts off and we're coming into another cold front, um, just a couple of weeks ago.
[:[00:36:39] CJ: know? Yeah. And that, that, that's what I'm saying. How are batteries gonna ha happen, like with that situation? And also like, like automation.
[:[00:37:05] Bryan: heat nine 11 or are additives to the diesel to make sure they don't gel up so that, so it'll actually start, but you know, right back to what I, my pickup I had to put, I put a brand new battery in there right before that cold snap and I still had to put the battery charger back on my truck to get my gas engine to start.
[:[00:37:33] CJ: that don't speak to it. Like there's already problems with that. There's already complaints about that. Yeah. You know, but that's only like, you gotta remember a lot of people pushing this live in places like California.
[:[00:37:54] Bryan: Yeah. I it was, I used to
[:[00:38:00] CJ: But it was 29 degrees the other day and sunny in Colorado and I had to take my jacket off cuz it was warm. . Yeah.
[:[00:38:15] CJ: know, but it's, yeah. Freezing is sunny.
[:[00:38:19] Bryan: California, especially if it's sunny. Yes. I remember going to Southern California, back to our old stomping grounds, orange County one time, and I was asked, well, I wonder what the temperature's gonna be when we go out there. And I said, what month is it?
[:[00:38:59] CJ: using battery.
[:[00:39:19] CJ: Yeah. Hey, they
[:[00:39:35] Bryan: I'm shorts and t-shirt and you know, we're, we're gonna get in the ocean. We're, yeah, we're, we're gonna go swimming.
[:[00:39:54] CJ: For an adopted baby during a crisis. Yep. Because you know what? Like he doesn't care about transportation. He has no idea about transportation. All the people in charge, they don't actually have any idea about what's really going on with all this stuff, and that's gonna affect us. It's like right now, you know.
[:[00:40:24] Bryan: And normally, normally it's like in the thirties or something, forties.
[:[00:40:45] Bryan: Yeah. But they don't understand that we normally run in a 35 to 40 day range regularly, and that is normal.
[:[00:41:05] Bryan: That is quite a bit. But my point is, most regular people out there don't realize that that's what we normally run on.
[:[00:41:25] CJ: you know? But I'm gonna agree with them cuz they're not wrong. If, if we, if anything were to happen, right?
[:[00:41:46] Bryan: Yeah. You know, and, and even. On my end, looking at the 35 to 40 days, that's still not a lot.
[:[00:42:13] CJ: know? Well, and it goes back in what I was saying earlier about supply and demand, and the reason why I'm saying this is a big deal and why I agree with some of those people is cuz when you're down to 25 days and like you're saying, oh, not a big deal, you know, we're usually only 13 to 15 days more than that.
[:[00:42:47] CJ: So what do you think supplies, diesel prices are gonna be there?
[:[00:43:07] Bryan: Uh, $9 Eggs
[:[00:43:12] Bryan: nine. Stop. They're okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, they are, they are nine. We're out in the country. They're, you know, nine bucks, a nine bucks a dozen. That'll be free.
[:[00:43:25] CJ: Right. What about some pigs? I'm coming to your house for dinner now. We, we don't want pigs, but I'll, I'll have cows. Okay. Many cows at least. But, but I was told that the only way we can get cows is if we get goats. So I'm, I'm pushing off the cows. I
[:[00:43:41] Bryan: Well,
[:[00:43:54] CJ: I'm like, just don't worry about it. Right.
[:[00:43:58] CJ: man. Right? Well, we're having Billy tonight. .
[:[00:44:06] CJ: Yeah. . Yeah, exactly. That would happen. So I'm not a fan of goats, but yeah, in the long run I will be fully self.
[:[00:44:31] Bryan: Um, let's say, uh, dog
[:[00:44:34] CJ: No. Prescription cat food. . Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. How
[:[00:44:44] CJ: No, it's not. I walked in there and I have to get a very special kind of cat food. Right? And it's, it's urinary tracted, calming, like whatever. We paid a lot of money for this damn vet to tell me, Hey, you're gonna spend $70 on a bag of cat food.
[:[00:45:18] CJ: And I asked the lady, I'm like, uh, when do you guys get more? She's like, oh, I don't know. We, we don't have a
[:[00:45:36] Bryan: That is the only
[:[00:45:53] CJ: Stuff in it. I don't
[:[00:46:10] Bryan: So the supply is just not there and there's no need to, uh, you know, Be shipping it. No,
[:[00:46:28] CJ: Like, I remember us getting into the industry and what an entry level driver would make versus what they're making now. Like, it, it's not uncommon for entry level drivers to be making 60, 70 K a year now, which is, to me, it, it's crazy. You know, like what kind of industry can you get into? Where the first, first year, Right.
[:[00:46:55] Bryan: That's not many. At 60 plus, that's not many industries. Trucking is actually a very area of transportation. Logistics is actually a great industry to get into all the way around.
[:[00:47:20] CJ: that format. I totally agree, and like I said, it's kind of blowing my mind.
[:[00:47:39] CJ: It's what, it's what I take home now. ,
[:[00:47:43] CJ: that though, right? No, I did. Oh, okay. But like I was with his bonus, his normal paycheck ain't that high, but yeah. I mean, again, the kid's 19, right? Yep. He has four months of driving experience at this point in his life. And this year, this year sartan with like January one, right?
[:[00:48:08] Bryan: I can't help but think back to when I was that age. And you know what? I was high on the hog. I was buying the drinks baby. When I was making $28,000 a year.
[:[00:48:23] CJ: I'm right there with you. I had a job paying 1250 an hour and I thought I was, I was top dog
[:[00:48:40] Bryan: You know, and, uh, to, to see what's, you know, available for our kids these days. You know what my nephew, your son Toby's doing out there? Um, it's just such a different. Time and there is so much available in this industry, yet this industry is still, as we've talked about it, over and over, it's so fragile and, and is on the edge, you know, when it comes to going into, uh, battery powered everything, driver shortages, diesel shortages, you know, it's just, it's, it's, it's crazy when you look at the whole spectrum altogether.
[:[00:49:32] CJ: Like we, we saved it and like we did certain things like, cuz we didn't make as much, everything was cheaper though. And that kind of goes into this whole thing, like if we have a driver shortage, right? What that's gonna equate to is we're gonna have a. A consumption shortage. How can you buy stuff that's not there?
[:[00:49:53] CJ: Right? If we don't have people to deliver the product, how are people gonna purchase it and where's it gonna go? You know? And then if diesel prices go up, the stuff that does get delivered, it's gonna cost more. So like, wh where do you think this ends?
[:[00:50:18] Bryan: There's gonna be an endpoint to it there. There has to be an endpoint to it. You're gonna get to a point to where it just is all going to come together and it really implode.
[:[00:50:46] Bryan: That's gonna wa affect the whole supply chain all
[:[00:51:06] CJ: Yeah. Like, you know, I, I gave my son a good work ethic. I taught him like, you want nice things. Yeah. You want to go travel, you want to go do this. What you do is you work your ass off. Now you save your money and you go get that. Like, you make yourself a goal and you go get that. Now people want it for free.
[:[00:51:25] CJ: And uh, now they're living it. Exactly. Exactly. And, and like this is the messed up part because. people, nowaday, they're entitled to everything. Right. They like, they want free healthcare, right? They, they, they feel entitle they deserve entitled cheap housing.
[:[00:51:56] Bryan: Yep, that's right. And we grew up in an era where you were owed absolutely nothing and you earned every single thing you had. And I'm appreciative of it.
[:[00:52:16] CJ: Um, you guys might be surprised with this, but there is D o t, department of Transportation corruption out there. Ooh,
[:[00:52:26] CJ: then their government entity, like you first said when I, we opened the show, I said one to 10. You said 10. So you're gonna have to defend
[:[00:52:37] Bryan: Um, drop the zero. Actually I will defend a little bit. I do have respect for our D O T officers, most of which are state patrol officers that oversee the trucks out there that make sure that the roads remain a little safe. Well, to clarify, with
[:[00:52:54] CJ: They are D ot, certifi Certified, some Certified, certified D O T certified. They are not d o T officers. D o T officers are a federal officer. Right. That's the F B I. Of trucking. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Or the ATF of trucking.
[:[00:53:13] CJ: Well, that's why I had to change it.
[:[00:53:17] CJ: sails. Oh, so you support the F B I? No. One to 10. You're, you're an 11. I'm
[:[00:53:31] CJ: And the only reason why I said that is cuz I actually do like a lot of high highway patrolmen out there.
[:[00:53:55] CJ: That's right. Yeah. But how many of those guys are driving past the scale? The people that are breaking the rules and have shitty trucks, they know where the scales are.
[:[00:54:16] Bryan: A piece of paper in my hand that says, oh, I'm just transporting just the tractor. I said, uh, no. I picked it up in Hutchinson, Texas, and I was coming back here to Colorado Keensburg just outside give, give you a map of all the D O T scales. So, yeah, no, right , no, they didn't even do that. They expected me to figure it out, but I stopped and I said, Nope, absolutely.
[:[00:54:54] CJ: so federal. That is Federal interstate.
[:[00:54:58] Bryan: state from state. The state. The state. Which federal covers all the states actually. So it's not like highway would patrol. No. So I'm proving your point right here while I do. I do appreciate the fact that when they find a truck with lug nuts missing and break chambers, dragging the ground, safe trucks, unsafe trucks, say, get 'em off the road.
[:[00:55:45] Bryan: And they said, oh, this is a huge company. We know your current. But you aren't displaying it, so please give me $125.
[:[00:56:11] CJ: Right. . Like he told the driver, you
[:[00:56:16] CJ: I will download, I'll let you go. This violation. Right. And so the driver's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me work it out. Well he called the feds, right? Yeah. And turned the dude in. Yeah. And turned the dude in and then I'm paying you No,
[:[00:56:28] CJ: So a Fed went to this guy and was like, Hey look, we don't got 35. Well I'll give you two grand. Like, first off, you're dealing with the trucking company. 3,500 bucks ain't nothing. That's nothing. Yeah. It's nothing. . So this guy takes a lower form of two grand, right? And gets busted for taking bribes for letting these trucks cross.
[:[00:56:59] CJ: They're willing to go ahead and just make money. Yeah. That's all they care about. Yeah. And so this guy was like, I don't care if your truck's unsafe. I don't care if you're gonna go out there and possibly kill a family son. I don't. Four miles down
[:[00:57:14] Bryan: I don't care that two grand right there is worth more than that. That is
[:[00:57:33] CJ: I don't agree. Trying to sugar coat ginger. Right. Old Bryan over here. The ugly brother , right? The guy that that screws me outta my Disneyland trips.
[:[00:57:45] CJ: He's a 10 and 11 on the one to 10 scale for government. .
[:[00:57:54] Bryan: So bring me right back down to that one. You, you know what, I will church it up in a little and I'll give him a 1.3. . 1.3. I try. I like the point. All
[:[00:58:12] CJ: Um, there are some regulations I think we need. Yes. Um, but I think it's too big. And they're overreach.
[:[00:58:21] CJ: page. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Hand foot there is there disease, hand, foot, like mouth, something, uh,
[:[00:58:31] Bryan: Hand. Mouth. Yeah. Foot, foot. Mouth. Foot mouth disease. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Right. I remember right. Didn't my nephew have that? If he's listening out there, didn't he have that?
[:[00:58:45] Bryan: So, , if you don't mind, I'm gonna elaborate on Disneyland.
[:[00:59:00] Bryan: no, no, no. See, I'm, I'm, I'm not a 10 on government scale. I'm all about me. And this right here is gonna prove this point. See, when we were very young, okay. I was, I'm the oldest brother, CJ's number three in line.
[:[00:59:32] Bryan: Now, for those of you out there, I'm six five now. So I was pretty tall when I was in second grade. I did, I lost about half an inch. I went just under six. Six. So, I'm a solid six five now. So even in that age, I was very tall for my age, so I could reach real high on the walls, man. I drew them things up. Well, our dad and mom came home.
[:[01:00:00] CJ: I tried to snitch 'em out, but apparently I was too young to really talk clearly. That's right.
[:[01:00:04] I
[:[01:00:06] Bryan: So, um, I held to my guns. They put you on a step, on a little step stool. They put our, our brother between us on a little step stool.
[:[01:00:37] Bryan: Well, CJ didn't get to go to Disneyland that day for his first time because I stuck to my guns and I refused to admit it. You know,
[:[01:00:56] CJ: You should have worked in the government, and I understand why you gave 'em a 10 . On that note, everybody, we love you. Drive safe out there. Thank you for listen. Have a great night. Good
[:[01:01:13] CJ: I dunno where I've, I dunno where I'm.
